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#1 p8ragon

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Posted 17 March 2013 - 08:20 PM

Hi guys, Just got a 1x...and I'm torn between these two configurations

2 ER LLs + 2 Double heatsinks on both hands
2 LLs + 4 Double heatsinks on both side torsos
Endosteel
AMS
Absolutely maxed out armor

OR

1 ER PPC on right hand
1 ER LL on left hand + double heatsink
2 LLs with 3 Double heatsinks, One MG with one ton of ammo
AMS
stripped down armor. (-40 points overall)
Endosteel

What do you guys think?

Any optimizations you suggest?

Edited by p8ragon, 17 March 2013 - 08:21 PM.


#2 Kdogg788

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Posted 17 March 2013 - 08:22 PM

I'd suggest dropping all of the ER larges.

-k

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Posted 17 March 2013 - 08:23 PM

Just go 4 large lasers with 22 DHS, is more than enough.

#4 p8ragon

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Posted 17 March 2013 - 08:23 PM

View PostKdogg788, on 17 March 2013 - 08:22 PM, said:

I'd suggest dropping all of the ER larges.

-k


Heyy thanks for the quick response. Why though? I thought they'd be viable for long range pseudo sniping?


View PostStonefalcon, on 17 March 2013 - 08:23 PM, said:

Just go 4 large lasers with 22 DHS, is more than enough.


Are the ER Larges really that bad? Why?

Edited by p8ragon, 17 March 2013 - 08:24 PM.


#5 Kdogg788

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Posted 17 March 2013 - 08:39 PM

ER large are amazingly heat inefficient.

-k

#6 El Bandito

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Posted 17 March 2013 - 09:52 PM

5 LLasers for the maximum trollage.

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...acbf1ec95b74c51

Edited by El Bandito, 17 March 2013 - 09:57 PM.


#7 GalaxyBluestar

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Posted 17 March 2013 - 09:56 PM

View Postp8ragon, on 17 March 2013 - 08:20 PM, said:

anxiety to have optimum build using energy weapons


read the first page of this

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Edited by GalaxyBluestar, 17 March 2013 - 09:57 PM.


#8 Heeden

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Posted 17 March 2013 - 10:09 PM

I prefer having the longer-range weapon on the shoulders, the arms slots are fairly low on 'phracts.

#9 Monkey Bone

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Posted 17 March 2013 - 11:39 PM

I run;

-xl340
-5llas
-maxed armor, excluding legs (extract 8-16 points each)
-endo
-rest on DHS

The huge engine allows many heatsinks to put in it.

#10 The Cheese

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Posted 17 March 2013 - 11:47 PM

Back before Alpine, I ran one with 2 LL and 3 ML, standard 300 engine, max armour and the rest filled out with DHS. It was pretty effective in brawls and could help with long range fights.

It's more of an 'easy to use' build than anything else. You can fire all day long and never really have to worry about heat. It's easy to get respectable damage with, but never really excels.

Edited by The Cheese, 17 March 2013 - 11:48 PM.


#11 Arete

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Posted 18 March 2013 - 01:09 AM

I tried the LL boat approach for the 1X, simply found the heat to limit it's effectiveness.

I've gone for this build instead: http://mwo.smurfy-ne...19502cf4fb7289e

More of a close/medium range, but can reach out and touch ppl with the ER large if need be. If running PPCs or ERLL, put them in the torso, those hardpoints are high up so you can shoot from partial cover.

#12 Onmyoudo

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Posted 18 March 2013 - 01:31 AM

I run my 1-X with 4 larges and everything else heat sinks. ERs or 5 Larges is too hot. Also an XL in a Cataphract is asking for trouble.

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Posted 18 March 2013 - 01:42 AM

I run mine with 2x ERPPCs (in the torsos) and 3 medium pulse (arms), endo steel and dhs, no heat issues
Great sniper,and also a good brawler with a punch :-)

Edited by Kain, 18 March 2013 - 01:43 AM.


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Posted 18 March 2013 - 01:54 AM

Why not dressing it with 5 Llas?

#15 The Cheese

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Posted 18 March 2013 - 02:02 AM

I just remembered that I was running a 4ppc 1X for a while. Can't remember what engine it had, but it was an XL. The rest of the mech was stuffed with DHS.

Was a lot of fun and was capable of ludicrous damage, so long as you can stay away from the main brawl.

#16 KinLuu

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Posted 18 March 2013 - 02:09 AM

3x LLas in the arms.
2x PPCs in the side torsos.

300XL; DHS; Endo

It runs hot like hell, but it is a lot of fun. It is a poor mans Nova Cat Prime.

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Posted 18 March 2013 - 02:36 AM

315 engine, two medium lasers, three large. Why two medium? More tonnage for faster engine and more heat sinks, but slightly hotter during alpha, but at closer ranges it does 37 over 36. But eh.

Edited by Lost One, 18 March 2013 - 02:36 AM.


#18 Squirtbox

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Posted 18 March 2013 - 03:34 AM

xl330 19 doubles 5 larges and endo. anything else is useless.

#19 POOTYTANGASAUR

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Posted 01 April 2013 - 03:51 PM

View Postp8ragon, on 17 March 2013 - 08:20 PM, said:

Hi guys, Just got a 1x...and I'm torn between these two configurations

2 ER LLs + 2 Double heatsinks on both hands
2 LLs + 4 Double heatsinks on both side torsos
Endosteel
AMS
Absolutely maxed out armor

OR

1 ER PPC on right hand
1 ER LL on left hand + double heatsink
2 LLs with 3 Double heatsinks, One MG with one ton of ammo
AMS
stripped down armor. (-40 points overall)
Endosteel

What do you guys think?

Any optimizations you suggest?

5ppcs
xl 280
400 armor
15 dhs
endo
Done.





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